How to Cast a Chart without a Birth Time

How to Cast a Chart without a Birth Time

Author: Alison Price   –   Updated: March 2025

How to Cast a Chart with No Birth time

The Birth Time

The basis of casting a birth chart for someone is to erect one for the exact time, date and place of their birth. And to be precise, the time you want is the time of the inhalation of the first breathNot the time the surgeon made the first cut (for C-sections), not the time the head crowned and not the time the cord was cut.

Birth Time

Unless the birth details are written down, like on a birth certificate or in a baby memory book, you never really know. Birth times are categorized into Rodden Ratings after the great astrologer Lois Rodden.

Rodden Ratings

AA = Accurate Accurate: From a birth certificate or a birth record. This time is written down and in hand perhaps in a baby book.

A = Accurate: From memory, family legend or hearsay and is spoken or word-of-mouth typically from an aunt or someone in the family who was there.

B = Biographical: From autobiography or biography. This is secondhand information usually gleaned by an interview.

C = Caution: The data is from conflicting sources.

DD = Dirty Data: Don’t use or rely on this data.

X = No time: Here there is the birthdate only with no birthtime.

XX = Very insecure: No date or year. Very weak.

People will generally know their birthdate, although I did once come across a woman who did not know her year of birth.

Birthtime

If your client does not know their birth time (and they are not interested in rectification) how do you cast their chart and find some information that you can use? This frequently comes up in chart readings. As a professional astrologer, you need to help your client and there are a couple of ways of working with a time unknown chart. Here are some simple steps that I use to overcome the issue.

 

The Noon Chart

12 Hours Out

It is best to cast your client’s chart for noon on their birthday then you can only be twelve hours out. Clearly this is not an ideal situation, but it is better than being twenty-four hours off the birth placements which would be the case of you set the chart for 12am at the beginning of the day or 11:59pm at the end of the day.

Suspect Data

Experience will tell you that many people’s birth information is suspect at the best of times. You have to constantly be on the lookout for incorrect birth data and the chart results when face-to-face with your client.

 

The Noon Moon

The Lunar Question

The Moon travels about twelve to fifteen degrees each day and on average about 13° forward. With this movement, halfway through the day (at noon), it will be six to seven and a half degrees out either way and may or may not be of use. 

Moon Sign

However, you could ascertain the lunar sign because if the Moon is between seven and a half degrees and twenty-two and a half degrees of a sign at noon, then you know for sure it is in that sign in the birth chart.  Because the Moon would still be in the sign for a birth first thing in the morning and last thing at night.

Example Moon

In our example chart, the Moon is at 13°49′ Pisces at noon. When you check the 12am chart the Moon starts the day at 06°43′ Pisces. On the 12 midnight chart the Moon has moved to 21°13′ Pisces, so we can be quite confident and say that the Moon was in Pisces in this chart.

 

Natal Noon Chart

Signs and Aspects

With a “noon chart” the planets in the signs and planetary aspects are correct (except the Moon). You can use the dispositor tree, but check the Moon.

Angles and Houses

Unfortunately, there are no firm angles or house cusps because we do not have a birth time. Therefore, you cannot use the Ascendant, Midheaven, Descendant or IC or the houses in your chart interpretation. In this case you will not have a chart ruler or a most elevated planet either.

Quality not Quantity

This means of the possible 100% information shown in a normal chart with a noon chart you only have 60% of information. The point is that the 60% you do have is still 100% correct. There is less quantity of information available, but it is still quality information when you interpret a “noon chart”.

Planets on Sign Cusps

0° and 29° Sign Placements

You do need to watch out for inner planets near the cusps of signs and weigh the possibilities of them being in the next sign, or in the previous sign (as we shall see for Venus) for retrograde planets.

Venus

In our example noon chart, you can see that Venus is at 29° 44′ Pisces and is retrograde. We know that Venus can move over 1° each day, so there is the likelihood that it was in another sign earlier in the day, that is before noon. 

In the 12am chart, Venus is at 00° 02′ AriesSo, in this noon chart you must realize that Venus could have been in either Aries or Pisces on the day. Early in the morning Venus was in Aries and later in the day, but before noon, Venus had moved into Pisces. You will need to make an assessment of Venus’ sign for your client.

Neptune

Note that Neptune is also in the 29th degree. Because we know that Neptune moves so much slower, around 0°03′ each day, it does not change signs.

Planetary Stations

Less than 0°10′ of the Station

If a planet is stationary on the birthday, you can bet it is in that position dead-on in the natal chart but do always check.

 

 

Forecasting with a Noon Chart

Direct and Indirect

Forecasting with transits and solar returns (by planetary sign position not house) can be used as well as secondary progressions and solar arc directions the latter two with care.

Overarch

Your Ability

Your role as an astrologer is to help people. When someone comes to you and says, “I don’t know my birth time. Therefore, can I not have my chart done?” You really need to have an answer for these people, and the answer is that yes, you can cast their noon chart. You don’t need to tell them the techniques you will use, but you certainly can give them an astrology reading to the best of your abilities by casting a noon chart. Of course, you haven’t got all the information, but not everybody knows their birth time.

Helping People

If you truly feel that you are there to help people gain insights into their life through the art of astrology, I think it’s important that you do the best you can. Which is by casting a noon chart where you’ve got 60% of correct data and you can help them that way. There are some astrologers who believe that if the person doesn’t have a birth time, they can’t help that person and they will refuse to do the reading, but I’m not one of those people.

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Aspects of the Fibonacci Sequence

To remind you the Fibonacci sequence is a pattern in numbers where the previous two are added together to result in the next number in the sequence.

1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21…

One plus two equals three, two plus three equals five, three plus five equals eight and so on. It can be drawn as a widening spiral. This shape is found in nature in plants and animals and can be clearly seen in the nautilus shell chambers and in the head of a sunflower. The numbers build on the past sequence to create the future patterns.

It seems to me that this reflects a natal chart as it begins to progress and develop by building on what has gone before. The progressed chart unfolds over time from a base point in time i.e. the natal chart. Situations that occur in life must have been in the natal promise to start with.

 

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Fibonacci Aspects

The aspects in the Fibonacci sequence are:

 

  • Conjunction (1)
  • Opposition (2)
  • Trine (3)
  • Quintile (5)
  • Semi-square (8)
  • Baker’s dozen (13)

Missing Ptolemaic Aspects

In this sequence of numbers we see that the square (4) and the sextile (6) do not appear. Nor will the semi-sextile (12) aspect.

So what? Well, astrology is a system of patterns and symbols. We happily take chart divisions from one to twelve and for the simple reason that every number is represented.

We are also ok to extract the hard aspects in the eighth harmonic (1, 2, 4, 8) and call them manifesting aspects. Surely if the Fibonacci sequence occurs in nature and so is part of the Earth experience, should we not consider this group of aspects in a particular way?

 

Quintile

Perhaps because the quintile aspect is found in the Fibonacci list that is our first clue. Quintiles are closely associated with your creativity and genius.

 

 

13th Harmonic a Baker’s Dozen

What about the thirteenth harmonic?

Keywords transformation and values. This is not an aspect that is widely used in general astrology but can it be somehow associated with the meanings of the others in our sequence, maybe following the quintile theme?

I’m not sure, but using the Fibonacci aspects in a particular way as a group is a theory that has been buzzing in my thoughts for a while now. I wanted to put these ideas out there for consideration.

 

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Retrograde Sun

Introduction

Everything you wanted to know about a retrograde Sun, but were too afraid to ask

There really are only two responses to the title of this piece. Ok, maybe more than two, but the essence of each will be the same as they are just variations on a theme.

The first response is “I have to learn about this new feature in astrology” and the second reaction is “What’s she banging on about now?”

 

Part 1: If you don’t know about retrograde Suns

Read this part if you have a retrograde Sun in your chart, if it is in a member of your family’s nativity, if it has cropped up in a friend’s horoscope or if you wish to learn how to interpret one.

 

  • Decide if it is a daytime or nighttime birth
  • Check for converse progressions
  • Realize that astrology has many confusing details
  • Calculate the chart with Regiomontanus house cusps
  • Book in for the class “Astronomy for Astrologers”
  • Make sure to discuss this interesting phenomena at you next astrology meeting

Part 2: If you do know all about retrograde Suns

Read this part if you know about retrograde Suns or if you have come across them before. Here are some thoughts on how to proceed.

  • A little knowledge is a dangerous thing
  • Choose your mentors wisely
  • Always be on the lookout for a sense of humor
  • Know that not all those reading this have your powers
  • Get behind the “All practitioners must get certified” regime
  • Go outside, stand in the Sun and smile

Remember everyone sees the world through the lens of their own chart. What one person sees is often different to how you view things.

Who is correct?

Sometimes it is not easy to tell.

Let astrology inspire you.

 

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Here is a fun Astrology Crossword for those strong Mercury types.

What to do

Print this page, complete the crossword, scan to a file, attach to an email and send to info@starzology.com to have your name posted here as one of the few to complete this crossword.

 


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Clues Across

1. A positive element (3).

2. His laws on planetary motion (6).

4. Part of the Great Year (3).

5.  Greenwich Mean Time abbr. (3).

10.  An astrologer’s reference book (5, 2, 6).

12.  Mars’ colour (3).

14. Exalted in Aries (3).

15.  Largest of the big four asteroids (5).

16.  Ptolemy’s famous work (11).

19.  The house of your children’s career (6).

21.  An asteroid award (4).

24.  Finger of God aspect pattern (3).

25.  Local Mean Time abbr. (3).

26.  Easy aspect (5).

28.  The metal of Mars (4).

29.  Sagittarius’ element (4).

30.  Right Ascension abbr. (2).

31.  Falls in Virgo (5).

34.  Junction of the plane of the ecliptic and a planet’s path (4).

35.  A chart used in synastry (9, 5).

36.  Aspect tolerances (4).

37.  The point of the celestial sphere directly above the observer (6).

38.  Castor and Pollux are the Gemini pair (5).

 

Clues Down

1.  Saturn is the traditional ruler (8).

3.  The sign of the monarchy (3).

6.  Quadruplicities (5).

7.  Age of Aries symbolic animal (3).

8.  Planet of reflection (4).

9.  Toronto’s vibrant astrology group (9, 7).

11.  A planetary condition (7).

13.  The planet that rules the Phoenix (5).

14.  The State Of The Art astrology conference (4).

15.  A planetary key (6).

17.  Hemisphere from 4th to 9th (7).

18.  Immum Coeli abbr. (2).

20.  Below the Asc/Dec axis (5).

22.  Planet of rebellion (6).

23.  The 29th degree (8).

27.  The rulers of the signs (7).

32.  These can be fixed (5).

33.  The 6th house pertains to animals smaller than this one (4).

 

 

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Essential Dignities

Essential Dignities

Essential Dignity

What is Essential Dignity?

Essential dignities refer to a planet in a sign and whether the planet is well placed in that sign or not.

 

What Planets to Consider

Traditionally, we usually only look at the visible planets (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn) when assessing essential dignity.

However, you can also consider the modern planets (Uranus, Neptune and Pluto) if you use these planets in your daily practice.

 

Four Essential Dignity States

Initially we are concerned with the essential dignity states of Rulership, Exaltation, Detriment and Fall.

 

Essential Dignities Table

The table below I created from information found in, arguably the greatest astrology book of all time, Tetrabiblos by Claudius Ptolemy. Any errors are my own.

 

Rulership

Rulerships are listed in the red column in the table.

When a planet is in its own sign it is in dignity or rulership.

A planet in rulership gains 5 points.

Planetary Expression

A planet functions well in rulership as its urges are in line with the sign. A dignified planet can most easily express itself. It can work at 100% of its meaning.

Example: Venus in Libra (Relating & partners).

 

Rulership Person Example

A planet in rulership is like the owner of a home. They can do what they like and have full access to every nook and cranny of the home.

Planets in Rulership

This is a list of all the planets in their rulership. Check your chart for planets in rulership and note they get 5 points.

 

  • Sun in Leo
  • Moon in Cancer
  • Mercury in Gemini or Virgo
  • Venus in Taurus or Libra
  • Mars in Aries or Scorpio
  • Jupiter in Sagittarius or Pisces
  • Saturn in Capricorn or Aquarius

Planets in Exaltation

The blue column lists the exalted palents. Exalted planets get 4 points.

 

Exaltation Expression

When a planet is in the sign of its exaltation it functions well and is in line with the sign meaning. A planet in exaltation expresses intensity of energy.

 

Exalted Person Example

An exalted planet is like an invited guest to your home. They are like visitors who come for tea or the babysitter who uses the kitchen and can make a meal if they want.

They have access to many things, but they will not just start to paint the basement or take a shower.

An exalted planet is welcomed into the sign by the sign ruler.

 

Example: Saturn in Libra (Responsible and balanced).

 

Exalted Planets

The planets in exaltation are listed below. Check your chart and give exalted planet 4 points.

 

  • Sun in Aries
  • Moon in Taurus
  • Mercury in Virgo
  • Mars in Capricorn
  • Jupiter in Cancer
  • Saturn in Libra

Fall

Planets in fall are shown in yellow in the table.

When a planet is in the sign opposite its exaltation it is in its fall. A planet in fall gets a score of -4.

 

Fall Expression

This is a difficult placement, as the planet will struggle to reach its full potential here. A planet here is weak.

Example: Sun in Libra (Individual’s needs vs. partner’s needs).

Fall Person Example

A planet in fall is like the lawn guy or the pool guy. They come onto your property and attend to the outside, but they do not come into the home. They are not really welcome and you probably know their name but that’s about all.

These people are tolerated and planets in fall are tolerated by the sign they are in and the sign ruler (host) itself.

 

Fall Planets

Planets in fall are listed here. Check your chart and give fall planets a score of -4.

 

  • Sun in Libra.
  • Moon in Scorpio.
  • Mercury in Pisces.
  • Venus in Virgo.
  • Mars in Cancer.
  • Jupite in Cancer.
  • Saturn Aries.

 

 

Detriment

Detriment planets are shown in the green column in the table. Planets in detriment get a score of -5.

When a planet is in the sign opposite the sign of its dignity it is in its detriment.

 

Detriment Expression

This is not a good placement for the planet as its urges can be surpressed and thwarted.

Example: Mars in Libra (needs independence vs. needs of others).

 

Detriment Person Example

A planet in detriment is like the garbage truck guys. They attend to the property, but do not enter the house. They will not enter and are probably not welcome to just pop in for tea.

The planet in detriment is not really welcomed into the sign by the sign ruler (the host).

Detrimented Planets

This lists all the palents in detrimen. Check your chart and these planets get a score of -5.

 

  • Sun in Aquarius
  • Moon in Capricorn
  • Mercury in Sagittarius or Pisces.
  • Venus in Aries or Scorpio.
  • Jupiter in Gemini or Virgo.
  • Saturn in Cancer or Leo.
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Peregrine Planets

A planet is peregrine when it does not have any essential dignity. This imparts a neutral energy.

A peregrine planet gets a score of 0 (zero).

Example: Moon in Libra (but not when the Moon is at 0-9 degrees Libra = face)

 

Note for the purists 

A planet is peregrine when it does not have any essential dignity by rulership, exaltation, term, face, detriment or fall.

Essential Dignity Example Chart

Let’s have a look at an examole chart to discove some basic essential dignity.

The chart we are using is Beyonce, 11:15am, September 4, 1981, Houston, Texas, United States.

 

Beyonce’s Essential Dignity

Here I am only considering the four main parts of essential dignity , so dignity, exaltation, fall and detriment. I am only considering the visible planets.

 

The Planets Score

The Sun in Virgo gets a score of 0.

The Moon in Scorpio is in fall so gets a score of -4.

Mercury in Libra gets a score of 0.

Venus in Libra is in dignity so gets a score of +5.

Mars in Leo gets a score of 0.

Jupiter in Libra gets a score of 0.

Saturn in Libra is in exaltation so gets a score of +4.

 

Top Planets

The top planets in this chart in order of importance are as follows:

  • Venus +5
  • Saturn +4
  • Moon -4

High Focus Planets

What you do now is focus on understanding Venus and Saturn first, These are dominant planets in her chart and need to be thoroughly unpacked.

If this was your client you need to dig deep into these planets first as they are strong in the chart.

You can confidently lead the discussion with Venus and Saturn and their planetary complexes as she will be aware of these strengths already.

 

Non-focus Planets

Note the Moon in Scorpio is in fall and cannot work well to its full potential.

The Moon will probably not be a huge influence in her life, but is can provide insights into where she retreats to when her feelings get hurt or how she reacts when she feels threatened.

This is a dynamic Moon placement and, as an astrologer, you would want to tread carefully here.

I would not lead the conversation with the Moon.

 

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Author: Alison Price   –   Published: June 2012   –   Revised: March 2024

New Moon

When the Part of Fortune is on the ascendant it means it is New Moon.

Actually it is because it is New Moon the Part of Fortune will be on the ascendant.

A New Moon is potent because it is the seed moment in the Sun / Moon positions and the beginning point of the lunar cycle.

All things are possible now as the month unfolds.

Part of Fortune

Normally the Part of Fortune indicates through which realm of activities you will benefit and this is shown by its house position.

If the Part of Fortune is on an angle it becomes prominent and when conjoined the ascendant it has top billing in the chart.

The only other better place for the Part of Fortune to be is conjunct the Sun and Moon and on the ascendant.

 

Part of Fortune Conjoined the Ascendant

The Part of Fortune on the ascendant colors your whole chart.

Admittedly it is not a planet but a point in space.

However when placed on the sensitive ascendant the emphasis for the Part of Fortune increases and it gains prominence.

In the first house the Part of Fortune is well placed to benefit you throughout your life.

You come across as simply fortunate and appear to have a good life even a desirable one.

You are likely to have personal looks that are deemed attractive in your era.

You will be perceived as a classic beauty for women and considered handsome for men.

You are seen by others to be well off and to be from a good background.

Others perceive you as fortunate and bestow grace and favors on you.

It can become a self-fulfilling prophesy.

 

Part of Fortune Condition

All this is interpreted by the backdrop of the sign in which the Part of Fortune is placed.

The planet that rules the sign in which the Part of Fortune is placed is known as the dispositor or the Lord of the Part of Fortune and is an important planet to consider for this analysis.

If the ascendant sign and the Part of Fortune sign are the same then that planet gains influence over the fortune being given over this lifetime.

 

Part of Fortune calculations

The position of the Moon in relation to the Sun determines the placement for the Part of Fortune.

Daytime chart formula is

Ascendant – Sun + Moon = PoF

Nighttime chart formula is

Ascendant + Sun – Moon = PoF

A daytime chart is one where the Sun is in the seventh to the twelfth houses.

A nighttime chart finds the Sun is in the first to the sixth houses.

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